Triton Conversion

[commanderpete]

Typhoon (I think)

[commanderpete]

Not sure about this baby

Looks like an Ariel Jr.

[commanderpete]

A Dutch beauty---Ranger 9.9

http://www.ranger99.nl/

[wrevans]

Well this is just one of my favorite topics. So go get a cup of coffee and get comfortable.

I agree that there is definitely a big daysailor craze. And there is a bunch of eye candy for the poor window shoppers. I love this Spirit Yachts 46.



Here is Ginger, a Robert Stephens, "Fast Daysailor"



The other trend that I like, even though it is also way too expensive, is the new construction of classic old boats.

This is from Ames’ Point Boatworks which is building a new version of the classic Camden Knockabout.

The Camden Knockabout is one our recent projects. The hull design will remain true to the original lines of the Camden Class Sloop, drawn by B.B. Crowninshield in 1915. The underbody, rig, and cockpit have been modernized by the experienced yacht designers at Brooklin Boatyard located in Brooklin Maine. Having proven their abilities to produce beautiful, fast, functional Spirit of Traditional boats in the past, we are thrilled to be producing another modern classic day sailor of their drawing.

The Camden Knockabout will be cold-molded with veneers, epoxy resin, and sheathed in fiberglass. The cockpit has been re-drawn so that it self-bails, a feature that many light day sailors of that era lacked. An inboard diesel with sail-drive will supply additional push when the breeze isn't cooperating. A spade keel, carbon fiber mast and rudder will help drive this elegant day sailor around the buoys or up the coast at the front of the fleet.

The Camden Knockabout will be finished in yacht style with Teak and Mahogany accents, coamings, and cabin top. She will certainly turn heads on the water, and at any dock she occupies. With LOA 28' 3", a displacement of 3743#, and SA/D of 25 this boat will be a joy sail on a leisurely afternoon, and a lively competitor in any race.

I hear that the asking price is in the 195k range.

I looks like someone is also trying to get the beautiful Luders L-16 back into production with Morris Yachts as the builder. I think that this would make a fabulous daysailor and with a projected cost of about 60k they may just make it. It seems unfortunate that the "poor" persons daysailor starts at 60k.



I have wanted a classic daysailer for as long as I can remember. I sail without and engine so I appreciate thier sailing abilities and I live in San Juan Islands so there are bunches of places to go with day or two of sailing.

Since I couldn't find an affordable classic daysailer I decided to have one built. Well modified actually. I picked up and old Shields class one design.



And designed a modified concept to create my own daysailor / knockabout sloop.



Here is a picture of where she is now in the construction process.



Tim Lackey who created this Triton Daysailer, is meticulously performing this restoration / conversion.





Cheers, Bill

[bill@ariel231]

She is going to be a beauty. Did you decide on where the head will be located?

[wrevans]

She is going to be a beauty. Did you decide on where the head will be located?

I tossed the permanent head option. Tim & I just couldn't find a way to squeeze it into the cabin in a way that maintained the  quality of the space I am looking for. My wife and I going to use a more "portable" option from the camping world. You can read more than you wanted to know about our choice  here (I just couldn't go into details about this topic in this thread about beautiful boats).

[commanderpete]

Bolero is looking great. Work of art.

Wally is building a new 36' daysailer, sure to appeal to those poor slobs who can't afford a proper yacht.

http://www.wally.com/wallynano/

It features electric propulsion and an optional 2 head layout.

My boat has 3 heads, if you include the cockpit drains

[ebb]

Remember once on a unisex daysailor when asking about the head:
"That's what the backstay is for!":rolleyes:
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BUT ONCE AGAIN
this is another bodacious and unique  thread, with great photos running from gruesome to the absolutely awesome.

Found only on the Pearson Ariel Association Forums.
The Daysailor Craze, comes up first on google
and is one of a kind on this site
or any other internet site for that matter!

[Tim Mertinooke]

It only takes once to learn that the forestay is not the head...

[commanderpete]

We used to call that a "bow spritz"

[ebb]

Bill's (wrevans) post on uri-pouches  (when you go the 'Here' page on his site) seems to be a worthy one for a separate thread.  He includes other interesting user comments on the TJ urinal pouch.  It seems a Mark II model with a ziplock top seal would be an improvement.
Available from the local autoparts store.  
They are priced right ($2.70 each) but too expensive for single use disposal.  So we'd need another container probably to store the pouch  for the next urgency.  Which if you drink liquids a lot, you'll need it a lot.
I'm going to get some for the truck.  Seem to be doing more and more freeway traveling these days and fastfood comfort stations are a matter of luck and seem harder to find.  Pulled off by the side of the road on the leeward side of the vehicle like we used to just isn't done anymore - might even be considered littering: $270 fine in this area.

The briefcase porto potti seems like a great idea too.  Couldn't get the site to work though.  Multiuse seems out of the question for this one, I'd need to do personal research on the matter.  Dedicate space for a proper head is many cubic feet of seldom used volume on an A/C or a knockabout daysailor.  The briefcase model seems to be a step up up from the 5 gallon bucket and a white plastic bag!

The gelling concept to control our liquidity is a great idea.  That it is all biodegradable, I'm not so sure....  Not sure with the pathogens involved that disposal is all that easy and convenient or ethical.  And I wonder about any plastic membranes being degradable also...?

Is there still an abiding interest in the head question  viz the A/C?  We kicked it around a couple times in the past....  Maybe we should rethread it.
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Tellya one thing though. I've had to go below while getting blown and thrown around the buoys on a Sunday promenade
 and it's nigh impossible to aim properly into the portopotti and hold on with both hands and elbows.  
That little TJ baggie sure would make the episode a snap and certainly more salubrious.

[Sean O'Sullivan]

Nice, going potty in bags. Here's the solution your looking for, its hands free. That way you can stay busy handling the boat.

[ebb]

Need some sanity!

Haven't really 'studied' the retro craze that began in the mid 90s.  There must have been a few gaff cutters built in fiberglass with fin keels and fine teak.

But go to

http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Articles/Maid-2index.html
Google it: The Picture Perfect Pocket Cruiser.

where indeed there are a few pics of 'The perfect Pocket Cruiser' and some fine words about the reinvention of a John (son of Billy) Atkins 20' wooden day sailor (spelt 'cruiser' in British) with a similar waterline to the Ariel/Commanders.  There's no plastic in this boat except maybe the sails and ropes, and the jackets the two guys in the cockpit are wearing in the cover shot.

John Atkin drew some of the finest small boats ever conceived.  Like Halsey Herreschoff - they designed   small cruisers (nee day-sailor) with three dimensional souls.  

This is my retro candidate for the romance of small sail from the good ole days of beautifully designed and comfortable wooden sailboats.

[Wildcat]

saw this over at Good Old Boat and was reminded of you boyeez

[commanderpete]

Pisces 21

http://www.classicboatshop.com/pisces21.html