Commander Line Drawing?

[Lucky Dawg]

Plenty of room in the cockpit (you would think)

Massive cockpit??  Pshaw!  That stern spot is one of my favorites when someone else is sailing LD.  I like to stand there - Master and Commander Style - barking orders, two feet on the laz and one hand on the backstay.  If I have a tankard in hand, all the better.

[commanderpete]

Haven't tried transom surfing the Melonseed yet.

Need a bit more wind I think

[commanderpete]

The brochure is interesting. I've been trying to make it larger

They changed their mind about those winch islands

2700 lbs. lead ballast

[commanderpete]

Maybe this will work

[Commander 274]

i researched some free photo editing software that had "layers" and I was able to essentially trace the graphic posted earlier in the post.

please excuse any details I missed.

[Lucky Dawg]

NICE!!
 
Got a reply from the museum lady who forwarded me to maritime people.  Got no reply from the pearsoncurrent folks on their tracking of Alberg's vagabond plans following Pearson's demise.  Will keep you posted.  
 
In the mean time, again, NICE!

[Lucky Dawg]

p.s. I pasted both images into photoshop and it is interesting to view them. With all due respect, a nearly perfect tracing - so hear no criticism - I am only praising Alberg. There are the slightest differences that make the original (I didn't edit anything - that is just Alberg) look... more refined and graceful. The fine difference between the profile width of the deck to toerail elevations, the oblong windows, slight differences in the coaming height and a small sweep to them, slight differences in the bow-line, and the gentler sheerline (?) from the transom to the waterline. I know it has been drooled over before, but just those minute differences, in total... gives his drawing such a more graceful feel. I appreciate the artistry.

[Commander 274]

The clear cut straight lines of the photo editor I used do not do the boat justice. and I know this.

this was also the first time I used the editor and I learned some tricks as I did the tracing.  I also only used the track pad of my laptop.  I still need to purchase a mouse!

I would still be interested in a professional rendering.

(edit)... and please feel free to correct my drawing.  I am not an artist of any sort, so I would not take offense.

[Lucky Dawg]

Again, no offense to your rendering - and I couldn't correct it to be any better.  Only commenting on the subtleties of the fine art of Alberg.

[Commander 274]

haha, no offense taken.  thanks for working with me on this.

[Lucky Dawg]

I think I hit pay dirt - with Ebb's help.  Essex does have the original sailplan (maybe other documents?) for our A & C yachts.  I asked for direction from their reproduction dept for us to obtain what she has and how to make it easiest on her if there are multiple takers.  
 
Stay tuned and I will give you full details.
 
What the hey Ebb - you been holding out on us, er what?!?!?

[ebb]

Hey Kyle,
I believe Admiral Bill has sourced these museum 'original big copies' for us in the past.
But I am SEARCH button challenged, never being able to find what I want when using it!
I also believe Essex wants some big bucks for making copies.  If they are compleat there may be many pages.
It would be good if they will prorate you the page of your choice, like the Commander sail plan, if that was all you wanted.  

It's my impression (memory challenged) that these museum copies exist out here in the real world somewhere.  I can't remember who has them.  But it obviously would be very easy and not expensive today to have an oversized copy made of the needed sheet at a copy-shop.
The original plans were drawn to 1" equals 1' scale.
That may mean the sheets are 32" X 48".
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Mentioned this befor:
You should be able to accurately corroborate all measurements with the following method.  The lines are a bit fat but overall the  drawings are very good.
Took copies from our Manual to a copy shop and had them enlarged to SCALE. 1/2" to 1'.  It took a number of tries.
A 1" to 1' (doll-house scale) ruler is downloadable  from the net.  It wasn't accurate so I had the copy shop fix that too and got a couple  new working plan-rulers  laminated.
It was  natural to choose 1/2" to 1' for the boat plans.  That means the 25' 6" boat image is  12 3/4"  actual inches on  17"X24" stock paper.  The sail plan is about 15" tall and 12" wide.  Nice size.  Brought a s.s. ruler with me to the copy-shop to make sure the image was accurate verified by actual and published measures.
That image size and the 12 spaces per inch rule has made it easy to measure onto OR off the plans.  The enlarging seems very accurate.  But the images in the Manual may not be.
 
For example: the profile  lines drawing (pg144) for the Ariel/Commander - 'signed' and revised at the bottom by Alberg - HAS A CURVED SHEER,
but the boat I'm working on
HAS A STRAIGHT SHEER.

[Rico]

Sign me up!
-I'd ve very interested in a copy of the commander's hull profile line drawing as well...

[Lucky Dawg]

I see some discussion here. http://pearsonariel.org/discussion/showthread.php?t=419&highlight=peabody
 
Indeed, apparently not cheap for copies!
 
Will keep you posted with up to date pricing.
 
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update - Maritime Man says he will get back to me tomorrow or Friday. He was unsure what was on the 3 sheets they have and/or moreso what is on which. He was going to look at them and let me know.

[Lucky Dawg]

Per the curator:   "Just looked at the plans. Obviously, the lines pertain to both ARIEL and COMMANDER. However, the sail and cabin plan are for ARIEL (only). No idea where other (Commander) plans ended up, unfortunately. These Ariel plans are available through the museum. If you are interested in obtaining a reproduction of it, contact Christine Michelini in our photo services department to place an order (christine_michelini@pem.org). If you wish to order a copy, the cost is $25 and $10 shipping and handling." Sounds to be a full size blueprint per prior discussion. If it is the hull lines you want, it applies to Commander. Otherwise, you lucky Ariels are the focus.
 
Thanks Ebb, I (for one) was less interested for scale measurements than a big suitable for framing blueprint. But, my friend, you are one handy and resourceful dude.
 
The quest continues, Commanders!
 
A decent scan of the original from p. 109 of the manual is here: http://kylewilliams.net/file-park.htm (click sailplan link) (edit: I just uploaded a larger image. At 8MB, it will take a while to load.)
 
p.s. I also fiddled with the image in Photoshop and made a watermark for making notepaper with Commander in the background. (PDF below - similar sailplan for Ariel on p 103 of the manual. Happy to do the same either/both image for Ariel-ites)