Win Free Bottom Paint

[commanderpete]

Yeah, haven't seen it lately either. My old can is nearly empty.

Good stuff. Melts the skin right off your arm. Burns your eyeballs out.

I hold my breath spraying it even with a respirator.

[c_amos]

I called TEMPO, and confirmed that you can no longer purchase this paint.



The good stuff contains something called.... tct(?).... this is being banned because it works too well.





Being the great supporter of the EPA that I am, I decided to make sure that NO one in my area was ignoring this ban.  The 9th place I tried had two dusty kits (primer & paint) on their shelves, so I decided to confiscate it immediately.



[font='Times New Roman']Of course, they made me pay for it before forking it over......  I will make sure it is disposed of properly...... Only in accordance with the label.[/font]

[c_amos]

I've been in denial for too long.
 
  When Herb painted the bottom, he used red epoxy bottom paint, and overcoated with blue ablative (good idea IMHO).  I dive and scrub the scum layer off every couple of months, but lately that has included the removal of more and more barnacles, and I am seeing the red patches that tell me it is time.  :eek:
 
  Helped a friend bring his departure 35 down to the yard for haul out yesterday, and decided I really need to bring 'Faith' down haul and re-paint the bottom.
 
  His 35', full keel boat took about a gallon a coat, I am wondering how much paint it has taken some of you to roll on a couple coats of ablative anti-fouling on your Ariels?

[c_amos]

FWIW,
 
  For those who may search for the answer to the question;
 

am wondering how much paint it has taken some of you to roll on a couple coats of ablative anti-fouling on your Ariels?

  I used a gallon of Petit Horizons to roll on 2 full coats and most of a third with a pint or so left to touch up the bottom of the keel where the blocks are.

[ebb]

Help me:  Petit Horizons is an ablative and sloughs off in one or two seasons.  It's easy to recoat because it disappears and the hull washes clean.  But the hauling fees are way out of sight these days.

Petit Trinidad is an epoxy that costs $30 more a gallon but lasts two to four seasons, as I've heard.  After loosing its effectiveness it eventually has to be sanded off.  How many times out to recoat can you recoat without sanding, does anybody know?    It will require the same obscene hauling fee PLUS the  NASTY time it takes to prep the hull again.

Looks like hauling fees are a major consideration in deciding which type to use.  Wonder if it makes any difference actually if a winning racer has soft or hard paint?
 

It's good to know A/Cs are a one gallon bottom.

And doing two colors is a great idea.


I'm assuming that regular ablative repainting is an easy job.  How hard to sand is a leeched copper epoxy bottom  when it just comes out of the water?  There ain't nothing  worse than sanding the bottom of a boat.

Why not put ten coats of ablative on at a time and avoid hauling?

How do you decide???

[c_amos]

FWIW,
 
  I was pleased to see how well Herb's bottom job held up.  I believe the boat had not been out of the water in 5 years, and other then a couple places, the bottom paint had held up pretty well (mainly where the hull had touched bottom).
 
The red patches where the epoxy paint showed through were small, and I was able to simply remove the dirt and paint over the remaining ablative paint.
 
  I choose Horizons since it had the highest couprous oxide % for the price (I bought it last year, this may not be true any longer).  I went with ablative, knowing the hull had been stripped last haul out and still had some ablative paint.
 
  A tip I got from a friend of mine that worked out well was to use dry wall sand paper to 'wet sand' the paint while it was still wet from the pressure washer.  It worked well, and kept us from breathing paint dust.

[ebb]

Craig, Fantastic!
Not only does that 'paper' come as a fiberglass sanding screen but the drywallers have a handy clip-on holder for the stuff that has an articulated head and a pole handle.  The yard pros use it.  Can get a twist-to-adjust telescoping pole for luxury scrubbing.

Would guess that after power washing and taking down any remaining ablative while still wet with the screen that it provides adequate tooth for the new coat of bottom....
Pretty simple prep.

How many times have I seen pissed off blue faced people emerging from behind plastic tarps in the boat yard?!

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Petit Trinidad is about $210 gal
Petit Horizons about $160

[frank durant]

FWIW...different temp water does make a difference on 'what paint is best' but after painting revival with Trinidad and cruising all winter in the Florida and Bahamas she didn't even need to be hosed off at haul out...GOOD paint !!