- Welcome to Ariel & Commander Owners.
Ariel & Commander Owners
Recent posts
#51
General/Off-Topic / Update re: the Forum and Assoc...
Last post by CapnK - April 30, 2024, 11:18:58 AMYep, I changed my Username, from the former "epiphany". (That was the name of my first monohull, a Com-Pac-23D which I owned way back before getting an Ariel.)
New beginnings, and all...
In that vein, I'll be giving the PA Association a new home in order to keep everything going. The move will happen gradually and over time, and should be relatively painless and effort-free for everyone.
Plans:
1) We will eventually be moving to a different forum software, likely Simple Machines Forum. As far as posting/reading/etc for y'all, it shouldn't be very difficult or too much different at all, once the move is made.
In that, I'll be attempting to move all the data from all the years - lock, stock, and barrel - as it is now. Meaning you won't need to re-register, or lose any pics, posts, etc..
That is the ideal, and what I'll be working towards.
2) A this point, everything else is up in the air.
I will be looking to make some changes as far as Association Membership. but as with the Forum these should impact you minimally, and be better in the end.
3) I'm working it all through and with Bills family, with an overall goal of "future proofing" the knowledge here that we have all contributed over the years, doing it in a way that means there will be a Pearson Ariel/Commander Association even long after I've dropped my last anchor.
I think these fine Alberg vessels deserve that.
That's all for now.
Thanks for being a part of our Community!
New beginnings, and all...
In that vein, I'll be giving the PA Association a new home in order to keep everything going. The move will happen gradually and over time, and should be relatively painless and effort-free for everyone.
Plans:
1) We will eventually be moving to a different forum software, likely Simple Machines Forum. As far as posting/reading/etc for y'all, it shouldn't be very difficult or too much different at all, once the move is made.
In that, I'll be attempting to move all the data from all the years - lock, stock, and barrel - as it is now. Meaning you won't need to re-register, or lose any pics, posts, etc..
That is the ideal, and what I'll be working towards.
2) A this point, everything else is up in the air.
I will be looking to make some changes as far as Association Membership. but as with the Forum these should impact you minimally, and be better in the end.3) I'm working it all through and with Bills family, with an overall goal of "future proofing" the knowledge here that we have all contributed over the years, doing it in a way that means there will be a Pearson Ariel/Commander Association even long after I've dropped my last anchor.
I think these fine Alberg vessels deserve that.
That's all for now.
Thanks for being a part of our Community!
#52
General/Off-Topic / Sad News - Bill (Ron) Phelon h...
Last post by frank durant - April 27, 2024, 03:19:35 PMSo very sorry to hear this!
He put in a huge effort to keep this community alive.
Condolences to your family.
He put in a huge effort to keep this community alive.
Condolences to your family.
#53
Technical / coaming crack
Last post by CapnK - April 16, 2024, 02:18:38 PMI think pull it off, slightly pry apart at crack and insert glue or slightly thinned epoxy into the split, let that dry/cure (clamping to hold proper position?). That'd probably hold well enough if you got a good coverage inside the split, but you might as well go all out... 
-> Once dried/cured, go for dowel insertion from the bottom. It's closer from there (so less drilling/dowel length needed), and will be 'hidden' when done, and that means a bonus - water will find it harder to get into.
Looks like some water got in already, so you might want to allot some drying time pre-repair. May be that removing some of the finish around the 'wound' will speed drying.
-> Once dried/cured, go for dowel insertion from the bottom. It's closer from there (so less drilling/dowel length needed), and will be 'hidden' when done, and that means a bonus - water will find it harder to get into.Looks like some water got in already, so you might want to allot some drying time pre-repair. May be that removing some of the finish around the 'wound' will speed drying.
#54
Technical / coaming crack
Last post by Lucky Dawg - April 13, 2024, 05:35:45 PMI have a horizontal crack in my port coaming. Looking for ideas to address. Hasn't fully separated, but cracked enough to wiggle. Afraid it won't survive the season unaddressed.
A dowel jig and long bit would allow drilling several top to bottom 1/4" holes and epoxying a mahogany dowel in the hole, but I'm thinking that a dowel won't do much for reinforcing the inflection point of the crack.
Maybe there are 1/4" bolts that are long enough. McMaster-Carr has threaded 1/4" 316 SS rods, but not sure about how to terminate on the top of the coaming. Maybe machine a flat-head screwdriver slot in the top of the rod?
Also thought about a 1" SS 1/8" flat bar - kind of like perpendicular Band-Aids. Maybe also some angle bracing on the outboard side.
I'm thinking the fix may be unconventional, so open to suggestions.
Photo is of the crack - the yellow line is the outboard deck level opposite the photo.
A dowel jig and long bit would allow drilling several top to bottom 1/4" holes and epoxying a mahogany dowel in the hole, but I'm thinking that a dowel won't do much for reinforcing the inflection point of the crack.
Maybe there are 1/4" bolts that are long enough. McMaster-Carr has threaded 1/4" 316 SS rods, but not sure about how to terminate on the top of the coaming. Maybe machine a flat-head screwdriver slot in the top of the rod?
Also thought about a 1" SS 1/8" flat bar - kind of like perpendicular Band-Aids. Maybe also some angle bracing on the outboard side.
I'm thinking the fix may be unconventional, so open to suggestions.
Photo is of the crack - the yellow line is the outboard deck level opposite the photo.
#55
Technical / RUDDER SHOE DISCUSSIONS
Last post by Bart - March 22, 2024, 06:46:27 AMI know this is an old post but if they're still available I'd love to buy one that is hardened on the bearing surface. Thanks. bartblank@yahoo.com
#56
General/Off-Topic / Sad News - Bill (Ron) Phelon h...
Last post by CapnK - March 21, 2024, 09:36:24 AMThanks Kyle! I responded over there. I'll send Bill II a PM, as I doubt that checking in here is important right now.
#57
General/Off-Topic / Sad News - Bill (Ron) Phelon h...
Last post by Lucky Dawg - March 20, 2024, 11:41:08 AMHey Kurt,
There is a member of the facebook Commander group with similar experience to you who offered to be part of managing the site. He also offered his CIS department as a possible solution-finder for the hack that screwed up new membership.
(I offered to Bill to help, but frankly don't have any skills in these areas!)
FB commander group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1037892126570091
discussion about this issue and Karis' offer to help:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1037892126570091/permalink/2069166443442649/
LMK if I can provide any more info or gather Karis' contact info.
There is a member of the facebook Commander group with similar experience to you who offered to be part of managing the site. He also offered his CIS department as a possible solution-finder for the hack that screwed up new membership.
(I offered to Bill to help, but frankly don't have any skills in these areas!)
FB commander group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1037892126570091
discussion about this issue and Karis' offer to help:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1037892126570091/permalink/2069166443442649/
LMK if I can provide any more info or gather Karis' contact info.
#58
General/Off-Topic / So sorry for you loss.
Last post by c_amos - March 08, 2024, 11:21:05 AMI am so sorry for your loss and grateful for your dad's support for our community.
This place has been so helpful to so many people... I do hope it can continue as I am sure Bill would want.
Thank you Kurt for your offer to step in. I am willing to help in whatever capacity I might be able to. So much wisdom in this forum, I hope it can be preserved.
This place has been so helpful to so many people... I do hope it can continue as I am sure Bill would want.
Thank you Kurt for your offer to step in. I am willing to help in whatever capacity I might be able to. So much wisdom in this forum, I hope it can be preserved.
#59
General/Off-Topic / Sad News - Bill (Ron) Phelon h...
Last post by CapnK - March 08, 2024, 05:50:17 AMSuch a sad thing to read. Wishing peace for you and your family, Bill. I went though the same with my father in the last couple months of his life, just over 24 years ago. The pain of grief lessens over time, but has never gone away completely. We all still miss him to this day.
I'd corresponded with your Dad about the site back in 2020, when IIRC he was transferring everything to a new host and the current board software. There were (of course) some transitional issues, and I wanted to let him know that if he needed help or whatever I'd be glad to do what I can. The offer stands, always.
I run several sailing community sites currently, along with a dozen or so commercial projects. Msg screenshot posted below, so you can see his humor.
I'd corresponded with your Dad about the site back in 2020, when IIRC he was transferring everything to a new host and the current board software. There were (of course) some transitional issues, and I wanted to let him know that if he needed help or whatever I'd be glad to do what I can. The offer stands, always.
I run several sailing community sites currently, along with a dozen or so commercial projects. Msg screenshot posted below, so you can see his humor.
#60
General/Off-Topic / Sad News - Bill (Ron) Phelon h...
Last post by Lucky Dawg - March 06, 2024, 02:35:14 PMDear Bill,
I'm so sorry to hear this news. Your dad had mentioned this summer that he was receiving chemo. Was hopeful he'd prevail. Really sorry for your loss.
Kyle
(I sent you a PM re your question)
I'm so sorry to hear this news. Your dad had mentioned this summer that he was receiving chemo. Was hopeful he'd prevail. Really sorry for your loss.
Kyle
(I sent you a PM re your question)