Ariel & Commander Owners

Ariel Association => Technical => Topic started by: manderson on September 17, 2013, 02:42:06 PM

Title: Commander 94 - Spinnaker Pole Dimensions
Post by: manderson on September 17, 2013, 02:42:06 PM
I recently purchased a Commander, but  the spinnaker pole must have been lost over the years and was not part of the purchase. I figured spinnaker poles are fairly universal if the dimensions are consisitent with the original design.
 
Would anyone happen to have dimensions for a Commander/Ariel spin pole?
Title: Commander 94 - Spinnaker Pole Dimensions
Post by: Bill on September 17, 2013, 05:34:01 PM
The ACYA Owner's Manual shows the factory wood pole to be nine feet four inches long with a two and a quarter inch diameter.  A ten foot by three inch aluminum pole is what most use here in the SF Bay.
Title: Commander 94 - Spinnaker Pole Dimensions
Post by: Ariel 109 on September 18, 2013, 06:04:41 AM
I believe a boat's spinnaker pole length is determined by the "J" measurement in it's sail plan, which is 114" between the spinnaker pole's jaw openings on our boats.  Although a longer pole would work fine, maybe better, it may influence your boats handicap rating.  I encourage you to get a pole and fly the spinnaker, really fun to do on the Ariels and Commanders, teamwork!
Title: Commander 94 - Spinnaker Pole Dimensions
Post by: manderson on September 18, 2013, 07:16:50 AM
Thank you both for your comments. I noticed Bill pulled his info. from the Owner's Manual which I will get an order placed for in the next few days.
Title: Commander 94 - Spinnaker Pole Dimensions
Post by: SkipperJer on September 18, 2013, 12:54:54 PM
PHRF rules on the Chesapeake call for a pole no longer than the J.  I'll bet the factory pole fit the rules.
Title: Commander 94 - Spinnaker Pole Dimensions
Post by: manderson on September 18, 2013, 01:06:28 PM
What is the "J" dimension referrenced? would that be a dimesion on the spinnaker?
Title: Commander 94 - Spinnaker Pole Dimensions
Post by: Bill on September 18, 2013, 02:08:21 PM
The "J" is the distance from the mast to the jib tack on the deck.  As pointed out by Ariel 109, using a ten foot pole may get you a slight penalty in your handicap rating, although the assumptions for the Ariel and Commander under PHRF give the boats a great handicap -- 258 here.  Check your local rating committee.
Title: Commander 94 - Spinnaker Pole Dimensions
Post by: manderson on September 18, 2013, 02:22:50 PM
Very good. Thanks for the information. I'll be storing my boat at a yard that scraps out boats that are too far gone for reconditioning and keeps a pretty good inventory of hardware, parts and pieces that it removes from boats being disposed.  I've been interested in picking through their bone pile anyway.
Title: Commander 94 - Spinnaker Pole Dimensions
Post by: Ed Ekers on September 19, 2013, 09:01:49 AM
Just to help here are a few routine dimensions..........
I—distance between top of forestay and the foredeck
J—distance from forestay chainplate to mast
P—distance from boom to top of mast
E—length of boom