Ariel & Commander Owners

Ariel Association => General/Off-Topic => Topic started by: Lucky Dawg on January 15, 2012, 11:18:19 PM

Title: Original chock!
Post by: Lucky Dawg on January 15, 2012, 11:18:19 PM
Looking to replace the stern chock that snapped during a storm this fall.  I took my broken one to three different welders and each said its cast composition wasn't repairable.
 
I'd really like to maintain the original hardware if anyone has a chock to sell to me.  
 
Thanks,
Title: Original chock!
Post by: Ariel 109 on January 16, 2012, 06:58:12 AM
Can't be welded?  Those welders must think that chock is made out of pot metal, they are not.  You need to find a welder with a AC TIG welder who has the skills to weld aluminum and shame them into doing the work. Those chocks will go back together like bread and butter.  The orginal Ariel bow chocks I welded two years ago have held up fine.
Title: Original chock!
Post by: Lucky Dawg on January 16, 2012, 10:13:54 PM
Is 47yo pot metal hard to distinguish from 47yo aluminum?  I wouldn't have a clue.  They said it was pot metal and wouldn't hold.  My stand-by welder seems to be on a protracted vacation.  I'll hit him up whenever he returns.
Title: Original chock!
Post by: c_amos on January 16, 2012, 10:33:30 PM
Kyle,

  IIRC, it is known as 'Marium' (sp?) which is an aluminum alloy.

I have been searching for the ice box latch for months, while I have no come across it yet I did find 3 of the original chocks.   Do me a favor and take a picture of the one you need.  If I have it, I will be happy to pass it along.
Title: Original chock!
Post by: Lucky Dawg on January 16, 2012, 11:27:58 PM
That would be great!  
 
5 3/4" (image is a little distorted, but that is the measurement)  Holes are 5" OC.
 

 
Title: Original chock!
Post by: c_amos on January 17, 2012, 04:31:28 PM
Kyle,

  I have it in my hand,  shoot me a PM with your mailing address.
Title: aluminum chock
Post by: ebb on January 17, 2012, 06:46:12 PM
Almag 35 is ledgendary cast aluminum.  Use that for searches.

Marinium.  I don't know that Perko owns that name,  but it also is a high strength aluminum casting material.  But it still is aluminum.
Perko makes some fittings you find in their catalog.  It looks like they are using old molds.
If that is the case they have selected the most useless fittings imaginable.
Don't know that I trust Perko.

That old skene chock would translate into a stunning bronze fitting for the A/C.  In my personal opinion,  one or two sizes up: 5.5, 6, even 7 inches.  It looks like it would be real kind to line.

If you had a complete aluminum chock or glued that broken one together,
you could take it to a foundry and have them cast it in silicon bronze.   Take its mate and have a handed pair cast!
Wouldn't be too pricey,  and would last at least 5,300 years.
Title: Original chock!
Post by: Lucky Dawg on January 17, 2012, 08:29:15 PM
Quote from: c_amos;24283Kyle,

  I have it in my hand,  shoot me a PM with your mailing address.

Will do.  Thanks Craig!
Title: Original chock!
Post by: c_amos on January 17, 2012, 11:02:24 PM
Putting them in a box tonight, will try to mail them out tomorrow.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iRD2X6mfd-0/TxZEFd_OHCI/AAAAAAAAA6U/TxWwOSvb9lg/s720/IMG_0020.JPG)
Title: Original chock!
Post by: carl291 on January 19, 2012, 04:46:05 PM
You know those chocks are attractive, but they are weak beyond belief!  Craig, Are you still searching for the "ice box " latch??
Title: Original chock!
Post by: c_amos on January 19, 2012, 06:48:59 PM
Yea, I am.  I actually came across the chocks looking for it...

... I KNOW I saved it, but I have no idea where.... sorry. :(
Title: Original chock!
Post by: carl291 on January 19, 2012, 09:57:54 PM
Which part or is it both parts? I'm not at home and won't be till the middle of next week, I may be able to help you out. (Not by finding yours, but maybe replacing it)  Here's a tip that ALWAYS works for me, Forget about it and go hunt something else.... then you'll have to move the latch 3 times before you remember that's what you were actually looking for.
Title: Original chock!
Post by: Lucky Dawg on June 07, 2013, 02:35:43 PM
Looking to upgrade my chocks to something stronger but at least resembling original.  I'd prefer not to drill new holes - or at least have the base of the new chock cover the old holes.  
 
Snapped two chocks - again - (sorry Craig) in a fall storm before hauling last year.  Part of this has to do with my dockage.  We rarely get weather from dead-north, but when it comes from there I'm least protected, and it is usually a whopper.  I need to set up some snubbers to ease the strain on the boat.  
 
So, back in the market for 4 skene chocks.  The originals (pictured by Craig above) are center-to-center 4 7/8" and 5 3/4" x 1 1/4".  Nowadays, it seems chocks that large are for 3/4 - 1" line.  Anyone have a product in mind?
Title: Original chock!
Post by: mbd on June 07, 2013, 07:30:14 PM
Got my mooring bit from these guys:  http://www.deepblueyachtsupply.com/deck-hardware/skene-type-chocks

Looks like they're having a sale too. (Actually able to get on the forum tonight and even post - woo hoo!)
Title: Original chock!
Post by: c_amos on June 08, 2013, 10:06:38 AM
Quote from: Lucky Dawg;25828Looking to upgrade my chocks to something stronger but at least resembling original.  I'd prefer not to drill new holes - or at least have the base of the new chock cover the old holes.  
 
Snapped two chocks - again - (sorry Craig) in a fall storm before hauling last year.  Part of this has to do with my dockage.  We rarely get weather from dead-north, but when it comes from there I'm least protected, and it is usually a whopper.  I need to set up some snubbers to ease the strain on the boat.  
 
So, back in the market for 4 skene chocks.  The originals (pictured by Craig above) are center-to-center 4 7/8" and 5 3/4" x 1 1/4".  Nowadays, it seems chocks that large are for 3/4 - 1" line.  Anyone have a product in mind?

It is ok Kyle, I am sorry they I failed for you.  It doe make me feel a little better about replacing them in the first place though.
Title: Original chock!
Post by: Lucky Dawg on June 12, 2013, 09:04:02 AM
No apology necessary.  I'm aware now that 50 year old pot metal probably isn't a good material for making rock climbing carabiners :eek:
 
(Punctuation is funny ("sorry Craig" above) - without a comma it could look like I'm calling you "That Sorry Craig" - whereas "sorry, craig" says "sorry you went to the trouble of finding and mailing those to me only to have me snap 'em"
 
Title: Original chock!
Post by: carl291 on June 20, 2013, 02:44:02 PM
I think if I was going to repair these, I would see about having a 3/16" plate of T6 welded on the bottom side.
Title: those original aluminum skene chocks
Post by: ebb on January 05, 2016, 01:55:42 PM
If anybody has a pair they'd like to sell

please, think of Ebb!!!
Title: Original chock!
Post by: Bill on January 05, 2016, 02:06:31 PM
Wow! Four year old thread comes back to life . . . :)
Title: Chocks
Post by: ebb on January 05, 2016, 05:03:10 PM
Yesir,  let's hope this poster here is not a toaster, and alive as well.

Really do want a pair of handed ALmag skene chocks.

Want to get 2-sets cast in silicon bronze.