Ariel & Commander Owners

Ariel Association => Technical => Topic started by: John on September 26, 2007, 12:38:44 PM

Title: Hatch Rails Commander
Post by: John on September 26, 2007, 12:38:44 PM
It appears to me  that the only easy way to redo the Hatch rails on my Commander is to remove - refinish and replace.  Is this a bear of a job or as simple as it looks. That is, to remove the rails, simply unfasten them from below ans lift?
Title: Hatch Rails Commander
Post by: bill@ariel231 on September 26, 2007, 02:21:05 PM
John

It's easy just, the screws from below and a couple in the companionway trim.

I've removed the rails on A-231 just a couple times in 10+ years. The first time to varnish and re-bed the rails. To varnish in place i just remove the aluminum slide from the top and cleanup the old finish with a random orbit or detail sander. A pretty easy task in the context of all the other things that need attention on an Ariel or Commander.


cheers,
bill@ariel231
Title: Companionway Trim
Post by: Rico on September 26, 2007, 03:46:47 PM
Are there any construction / fabrication drawings for the wood portion of the companionway trim? I think that some of my Commander's original trim is too worn and cracked...
I cannot tell how the lower portions are attached. Does anyone have some insight on this? Thanks.
Title: Hatch Rails Commander
Post by: commanderpete on September 27, 2007, 09:46:42 AM
You have to remove some pieces to reveal the screws hidden underneath.

I have some replacement trim pieces, if you can post a photo of your damaged ones
Title: Hatch Rails Commander
Post by: Rico on October 01, 2007, 05:47:36 PM
The two vertical 'rails' are pretty much gone now... They sort of fell apart as I unfastened them... A couple of the lower trip pieces had a bit of rot, and I would not use them again...

I discovered the screws all along thre trip pieces, but they would not budge once these were removed... It seems that the PO followed the same philosophy as with the coamings... 'Glue them, glue them for good -once, and for all time!'

Oh dear...

No going back now!
Title: Hatch Rails Commander
Post by: bill@ariel231 on October 02, 2007, 06:51:51 AM
do you have enough material to get the original dimensions?
Title: Hatch Rails Commander
Post by: Rico on October 02, 2007, 10:47:29 AM
I do. I was careful not to destroy the whole thing... In fact, I will try to assemble it as reference for a new one.
I was hoping for some drawings in order to confirm original dimensions as the wood is well worn.

It is not a very complex design in principle, the trick is to ensure that the water hitting the hatch flows TO THE OUTSIDE of the hatch...

How is mahogany for an ocean environment (it will be varnished)?
Title: Hatch Rails Commander
Post by: bill@ariel231 on October 02, 2007, 12:36:58 PM
mahogany works just fine with varnish or polyurethane....:)