Ariel & Commander Owners

Ariel Association => General/Off-Topic => Topic started by: frank durant on April 20, 2006, 04:14:52 PM

Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: frank durant on April 20, 2006, 04:14:52 PM
I am probably...no not probably..I AM nuts , but #50 is for sale. I am in that "clean house and simplify" mode.A car,a motorcycle,a cedarstrip power boat,a cottage,and 3 sail boats are going.I will later post a pic or 2  my 'pearson electra' restoration if Bill will let me...kind of a mini Ariel. #50 will not be sold unless to a good home...and someone who appreciates the work that has gone into her.     Inventory is : main-servicable c/w 2 reef points,150 genny-exellent with window and one reef point,jib-new,spinnaker-blue/white in great shape,150- servicable.  13 lb danforth style anchor/chain/rode/bowpulpit bracket. Data marine knot log and depth-both work with seperate light switchs, proper bulkhead style compass-lit,painted mast/boom, re-cored decks, awlgripped hull/decks, fresh bottom job(trinidad paint-2 coats),new dodger c/w pockets, sunshade c/w rain catcher, main cover...all sunbrella fabric. new exterior bilge pump, new cockpit cushions-filler etc. 1997 6HP evinrude 'yacht twin' sailboat engine NOT used from 99-06 !, 2 -5 gallon tanks, 20 gallon built in water tank/cockpit deck fill, new footpump to sink, new seacock to new pump at sink (raw water) new seacocks @ cockpit drains and head discharge, new interior bilgepump c/w Y valve to shower sump or bilge,new fold away table, backrest cushions, brass lights, brass lamp, barometer/clock etc, strongback supported both sides with mahogany, new galley arrangment/icebox/cupboards etc, wiring fixed up (see pics) new 80 amp battery, fire ext.Y valve @ head -tank/overboard  etc etc etc etc etc .   Price  will be $7500     lots of pics under 'gallery'
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: mbd on April 20, 2006, 07:16:11 PM
:confused: Holy cow! :confused:

Folks, the sweat equity is all paid up on this one!!  Jump - quick!  Before Frank reconsiders...
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: ebb on April 21, 2006, 07:45:26 AM
makes me sad. :confused:
Frank's next boat will probably be a Hunter.
Title: We can hope
Post by: c_amos on April 21, 2006, 08:48:21 AM
We can hope he gets 'sellers remorse' and buys another Ariel. :D
 
  Frank, thanks for the great work you have done to this boat,
I wish you well in finding it the right home.
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: frank durant on April 21, 2006, 03:04:57 PM
Thanks for the comments.Ebb...even if you'r not a 'gamblin man'....you can safely bet it won't be a hunter !! Although a 'magregor 26x'  IS  kinda nice......ONLY KIDDING
Title: an educated guess
Post by: eric (deceased) on April 22, 2006, 12:37:31 AM
you are selling out everything to buy a much larger vessel----in the 35-40 foot range-as a full time liveaboard-{I hoida dat happinen}--or your recent voyage left you with the thoughts of such---"why am I out here"---an'yuzza'takinzup' bowling :D
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: frank durant on April 22, 2006, 10:36:41 AM
Sorry Eric...wrong on both counts. My 'big boat' will be 22ft6in long. I will not be taking up bowling ,but will be spending WAY more time exploring by sailboat.I will keep a boat in Vancouver , with plans to explore Desolation Sound,Princess Louisa Inlet and beyond each late aug-late oct...another in Florida with plans to continue to explore the Bahamas (have not even made it to the Exumas yet),Cuba and beyond each early Jan.- early April and here at home I have my lil suncat to play with in my back yard and trailer to the north channel/Chesapeake/Maine etc, during the summer months.All boats will be small..ON  TRAILERS..simple and with the capability to be brought home to work on. All 3 would not add up to a good used 35ft $$ wise.With the trailers ,I can seek out inexpensive storage (private individuals) and save huge $$ on storage costs. Here's Revivals replacement. I know it's NOT as pretty...will NOT sail as well or nearly as fast ...but it has a little diesal for extra range(only 380hrs),only 3ft3in draft for the Keys/Bam
hamas and a history of 'bringing ya home'......and a trailer !!
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: Mike Goodwin on April 22, 2006, 05:00:44 PM
How can you afford the gas to tow the trailer ?
I just spent $50 for 17 gal ! Ouch!
Title: not so little
Post by: eric (deceased) on April 22, 2006, 08:25:27 PM
that "little" boat you pictured has sisterships that have known records of long distance off-shore deep water trans oceanic voyaging...I think I know what's in the "back burners" of your mind-----havent you been told that's only for big ships and planes????and how are you going to deal with Godzilla and other seamonsters?what if you fall off the edge into the "unkown realm of fire"?thats what they thought when they truely believed the Earth was flat...some people still think that way today... :eek:
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: frank durant on April 23, 2006, 01:07:36 PM
Mike...that would be $77 in Canada !!  Once the boat is at it's location...the storage erea to the marina is only 6 miles. I'll save $125mth in storage fees !! And be able to take home or move elsewhere easily if desired.  Eric....ya know
Title: Revival
Post by: c. vanderbroek on April 23, 2006, 06:15:44 PM
Please contact me regarding your boat.  Your private mailbox is full and I have some questions.  Thanks...
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: frank durant on April 26, 2006, 10:20:17 PM
I keep getting asked about "sail inventory"....to me, ALL the other work is far more important...but here goes
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: frank durant on April 26, 2006, 10:21:50 PM
2nd reef tucked in
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: frank durant on April 26, 2006, 10:25:11 PM
spinnaker..#50 sewn on...beautiful original wooden spinnaker pole incl
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: frank durant on April 26, 2006, 10:28:18 PM
genny with window and a set of reef points (sorry Bill..I'm a cruiser) Look close and you'l see the reef points
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: frank durant on April 26, 2006, 10:30:55 PM
Jib...note: the jib is new...genny near new and a 2nd vey servicable spare genny
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: mbd on April 27, 2006, 07:48:43 AM
Quote from: frank durantgenny with window and a set of reef points
Pardon my ignorance, but how do you reef a genny? (Without roller furling of course.)
Title: reefing headsails
Post by: Mike Goodwin on April 27, 2006, 08:03:37 AM
Simple;
Lower the halyard , tie up the foot , tighten the halyard and move the sheet lead forward . That method is over a century old .
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: mbd on April 27, 2006, 08:37:53 AM
Yeah, but why not just change the head sail? - assuming you've got another, that is. I suppose reefing would be a lot faster though, huh?
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: frank durant on April 27, 2006, 09:44:09 AM
THATS THE POINT...one less sail to store. This brings a 150 down to approx a 130 size. While not to racing standards , it does allow a cruiser more versatility for different wind conditions while taking up less space....way less $$$ too !!!  I'l post a better pic tonight
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: xroyal on April 27, 2006, 10:30:39 AM
Frank, Your plans make sense to me. Maybe I missed it, but could you give us the make/yr of your pictured pocket cruiser?  

P.S. Your beautiful Ariel seems cheap at that price. If she was docked at my lake, she'd have a Sold sign....after I sold you that I deserved her.  :)
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: frank durant on April 27, 2006, 12:02:00 PM
The 'pocket cruiser' is a 1993 20ft "flicka".It may be THEE finest 'original condition' flicka in existance.Owned by a lovely lady....her husband died in 1988..she found their irwin 30 to be too much to solo and went looking for a used flicka. ...finally ordering 'new'.It has only been freshwater sailed..always stored inside during the off season and is truly MINT.I feel very lucky to have found it.  PS...'revival' truly IS a bargain to anyone that understands boats
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: frank durant on April 27, 2006, 04:05:16 PM
Mike...here's the close up of the reefing point...basically the same as a main
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: mbd on April 27, 2006, 04:24:51 PM
Quote from: frank durantThe 'pocket cruiser' is a 1993 20ft "flicka".
Ahhh, Flickas. Such shippy little rascals! My first love, then came the more affordable and graceful Alberg hulls of the Ariels and Tritons...  You do it right Frank, all around! No doubting your fine taste.

And thanks for the pics too. Headsail reefing would be a real handy feature when it gets snotty all of a sudden.

Sorry to hijack your thread.

Back to the topic - someone buy this boat!!!
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: xroyal on April 27, 2006, 05:34:31 PM
Thanks, looked familiar, but I'd never seen a Flicka out of the water. What a safe feeling she's gonna give you in blue water. In case anyone would like to see the some Flicka details (along with bigger brother Dana 24):

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/cache/pl_search_results.jsp?cit=true&slim=quick&ybw=null&sm=3&is=false&type=%28Sail%29&man=pacific+seacraft&hmid=102&ftid=0&enid=0&fromLength=20&toLength=24&luom=126&fromYear=&toYear=&fromPrice=&toPrice=¤cyid=100&city=&rid=153&cint=100&pbsint=&ps=30

And none as new as yours. I like the way the saloon and v-berth combine for a spacious feeling.

Envy is my name!  ;)
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: frank durant on April 27, 2006, 10:03:38 PM
I am sure I will enjoy cruising in the lil flicka ...BUT...I am sure I will miss #50. The flicka will not be as fast..nor as pretty a boat.I always truly enjoyed the trip back to revival in the dingy.Carl drew beautiful boats !!
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: mbd on April 28, 2006, 07:41:12 AM
Quote from: frank durantThe flicka will not be as fast..
Very close though.

According to Carl's Sailing Calculator:

Pearson Ariel - LWL  18.5, Hull Speed - 5.76
Flicka (IB) - LWL  18.16, Hull Speed - 5.71
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: Stephan on April 28, 2006, 04:31:01 PM
If I didn't have Commander #274 I would buy your boat. After seeing all your photos and the enhancements you made I would gladly pay the $7500. Even though my Commander was only $2000, I expect to put many many $ into it and it will still not be like what you did.  Your ship is a bargain...
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: frank durant on May 05, 2006, 02:41:23 PM
Thanks for the thoughts Stephan.As to the price being a "bargain"...I think so.I have over $5000 into Revival...AFTER I purchased her!.....not counting any labour !! There would be another $3000 if I allowed myself $10 per hour !! At this point I would really like to see Revival go to someone that appreciates her and will take good care.These are classic boats and should be kept up. As to price..  If a person takes a "bargain" $1000 Ariel , adds paint for bottom,hull,deck and interior along with the materials to prep,adds a knotmeter,a depthsounder,a good compass,sails,anchor,thruhulls,water tank,bilge pumps,hoses,windex,vhf arial,head-tank-Yvalve,engine(a decent OB is $1500+)throw in cushions...int and cockpit,dodger,sunshade,boarding ladder,main cover ...now fix the wiring,install new lights,a gimballed oil lamp would be nice....etc etc.....NOW ..add up all the hours involved ...yep #50 is a bargain even if it was bought for $1000 and only had a "rooller/tipped"paint job instead of a professional Awlgrip spayed one.(note to Mike Goodwin...yes I know and have seen exellent roller/tipped jobs...but by pros)I would truly like to see a younger person get revival that plans to "explore". The price would be lower if the person 'felt like a good fit' to me.Sounds corny ..but if I'm going to loose anyway...I at least I want it to be to the right person. If interested , I can be e-mailed at     fdurant@    0    webhart.net    simply leave out the spaces and the 0 in that e-mail address (don't want spam etc)
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: frank durant on May 05, 2006, 10:57:37 PM
for anyone thinking 'shipping',,$1.00 per mile is a bit 'light' now. I had Revival shipped down to Florida from L I  N Y 2+ yrs back at $2500. It ain't cheap....but niether is moving it yourself !
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: CapnK on May 11, 2006, 05:24:04 PM
fVrrankkl -
wwehere iss rIVeival

(oops, sorry, my fingers slipped in the drool that's all over my keyboard... :D)

Where is Revival lying, currently? FL somewhere, IIRC...

What a beauty!!!

BTW, Bruce Binghams ex-personal Flicka "Sabrina" is at anchor here in Georgetown. She is *sadly* neglected, and in poor shape. I've been aboard her, and her insides are as bad as the outsides... That said, a friend recently met Bruce, turns out they live 12 miles apart, and so there is some talk of maybe Bruce coming up to see her (and I cross my fingers, *rescue* her...).
Title: "revival" for sale
Post by: frank durant on May 11, 2006, 08:06:20 PM
Revival is about 22miles W. of Stuart...up on the hard..tarped.Would like to see her go to an adventure seeker. Looking for offers from the 'right person'.  Heh Kurt...where have ya been???? Nice to see ya posting again.  PS...I mentioned shipping a few posts back...best and cheapest 'shipping' is by making a holiday out of it and SAILING!!